One Won Over for Life

As you may remember, a couple of post prior to this one, I wrote about a young high school graduate that is a very strong Democrat that I had been carrying on a dialogue with about the topic of Abortion. He was Pro-Choice and he wrote me a rather lengthy, yet calm and respectful post about his reasons for being so. I then, in turn, replied in a like manner addressing each of the reasons and claims he made. I also then posted and update some weeks later about how he was very thankful for they calmness and respect that I had carried out while discussing the issue and was glad that I did so because many of my points really opened his mind to start thinking about some aspects of the issue that he had not thought about before.

As you might as well know, there was a major victory won in Texas this month for the unborn. Texas made it illegal for women to get abortions after 5 months of gestation. There were many Pro-Choice protesters from all over the state protesting the bill while it was being discussed that week in the senate. There were also a large amount of Pro-Life advocates that came from all over the country to give their support to the senators that were pushing for the bill. I was invited to go to Texas with SFLA, but had prior obligations. I kept in contact with my friends who went there and they updated me. THings got bad, over 5 Pro-Choice folks were arrested, they were throwing bottles of urine, feces, paint, bricks, and used tampons at the Pro-Life advocates. Needless to say, things were nasty. Anywho, I saw this video from Texas during the week that really struck me. It is a video of a post-abortive woman sharing her testimony and how she suffered from the trauma of getting an abortion. While she shares this heartbreaking and heartwarming story of redemption through Christ, the Pro-Choice folks are laughing at her when she describes the mental, emotional, and physical trauma she suffered from after the abortion. They can also be heard chanting "Hail Satan" (a chant that was heard a lot that week coming from Pro-Choicers).

So, after watching this video, I sent a link to it to that guy I had been conversing with. A couple of weeks later, I received the following from him:
"Nick, those two videos really spoke to me. In matter a fact, I am glad to have someone like you around to bring up excellent points when it comes to this topic. I have done a lot of thinking on this here lately, and you're right, it's a disgusting act. I will however continue to hope abortion clinics stay open in the event of rape or mother endangerment, but, I am now, pro-life."


I then told him that, with the issue of rape, that only accounts for less than 1% of women who get abortions, and the issue of the mother's health being at risk, that was not handled in an abortion clinic, but at a legitimate hospital or women's health clinic.

A sense of joy and excitement overcame me when I read this from him. I, at first, felt somewhat prideful that I had turned him from being someone who supports genocide, to someone who believes in protecting innocent human beings. But I then realized that it wasn't me, it was the Lord. He had given me the resources, mentors, and material to read on the subject, as well as a mind to comprehend it. I realized that I am simply the instrument, he is the musician blowing into me and playing the right notes for others to hear. He chose me to convey his message of life. All the praise goes to Him, the almighty creator and sustainer of Life, the Great musician, the all loving Father. I praise and thank Him for giving me the opportunity and resources to help this young man. Praise be to God!

Here is the link to the videos that I showed the guy, in case you are interested.

http://youtu.be/l8N66bXXRBU

 http://youtu.be/1OgfAAIpHns

A short, but long defense against Abortion. (From a recent convo I had)

This is a response that I wrote towards a young sophmore high school girl who told me that I had no right to say that abortion is wrong, and that I was hateful towards women for saying that they shouldn't get abortions.

I'm quite proud of this comeback, but I know that it wouldn't have been possible if not for the privilege God blessed me with of attending and graduating Summit Ministries. A place where I not only grew to understand God's word better, but where I learned more about the anti-Christian issues in today's society, including abortion. So without further ado, here is the thoroughly thought out and researched response.


I cared about it way before the proposition came up, and that, frankly, has nothing to do with this issue. But I didn't start being vocal about it until I felt God calling me to stand up for his children and the atrocities being committed. (If you don't believe in God and/or the Holy Spirit working in people's lives, that's cool, but that's what led me to be more vocal about it

I don't set out to offend people. People have mistaken my tone as a hostile tone before, but it never has been such. I have friends in those situations. And I don't condemn them or treat them badly. They have come to realize that they were lied to by the doctors who tried to give them the abortions. The doctors talk over the heartbeat and refuse to show them ultra sounds.... I'm not trying to make people feel bad, because like my friends, most people who have undergone abortions were tricked and lied to. Ever since Roe v Wade, (Roe has since become a pro life advocate after realizing what the procedure actually does) the numbers of innocent lives lost have been way higher than that of those caused by Hitler or Stalin. 

I agree with you completely, I as a male, have no right to tell a woman what she can and can't do, and if she should or shouldn't get an abortion. That makes perfect sense and I agree with you completely, if the unborn are Not Human.

 I base what i say on scientific evidence. I  know from scientific research that abortion doctors will not perform a surgical abortion until at least 7 weeks. The child's heartbeat can be heard at 4 weeks. They are undergoing human development, just as we all do until we are fully grown, they are just at a different stage of development. Which factor makes them "terminate-able"? Size? Level of development? Environment? Or Degree of Dependency?  

Scientifically, we know that from the earliest stages of development, the unborn are distinct, living, and whole human beings. Leading Embryology Text books confirm this (TW Sadler's "Langman's Embryology", Keith L. Moore's "The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology", and O'Rahilly,Ronand,and Muller, Pabiola, Human Embryology and Teratology. Just to name a few) 

I'm all for women's rights. Women should be allowed to have all the same rights as men. It's the woman's right to have sex with whomever she wants. But by making that choice, she is risking getting pregnant. 98% of Abortions are performed on women who accidentally get pregnant and simply don't want to have a baby. This meaning that these 98% willingly chose to have sex and risk getting  pregnant. Just because they made a mistake of getting pregnant does t mean that they have the Right to kill their child. Murder is never the answer.

The point of the matter is: is the unborn human? (or, at what point does it become human?) If it is human, then my point and the comparison I originally stated are valid, but, if the Unborn is NOT human, then all your points are valid. But if it's not a human, what is it???

Final point: there isn't reason to bicker and insult each other over a scientific issue. The point that we debate over is simply: is the unborn human?/at what point does it become human? 

   
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